yes, we all have heard how annoying and stubbern it is. The thing is, ive used it for about a year and its now #2 on my favorite OS's. it has its flaws, but the thing is, IT WAS MADE FOR NEW AND EXPENSIVE COMPUTERS!!!!! my sister's computer has it, and i would see how it would make her not like it. she has a pretty new but cheaper computer and shes pretty stupid and falls for spyware and stuff, and now her computer works like crap. it only shows warnings on her computer, not mine. it crashes on hers occansionaly, but nver on mine. windows vista was made to max out a computers potential, and if it doesn't have it, it doesn't have it. simple as that. this whole thing with the new windows 7 reminds me strongly of windows millenium and 2000. millenium had holes for crappy computers to fall into easy, and so does vista. millenium was actually one of my favorite OS's, it was what my first computer had it and i was damn happy with it. just like how i am with my new computer. its got cool areo things and better hardware support (for NEWER NOT OLDER things) yet keeping it pretty simple. vista is also like millenium in the fact that microsoft was so fast to shove another version out there. millenium was replaced by 2000 quickly, and vista was (i guess) replaced by windows 7. the last thing id like to bring up is how mac slams on pc when pc doesnt do any of that crap. i mean WTF?? microsoft is not snobby like that, they even gave me a refund on a pirated copy of windows 98. (lol)